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	<title>Comments on: Twelve Moments in Anime 2007 &#8211; #4: Kanon (2006) 15</title>
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		<title>By: The Kanonisation? &#171; The Animanachronism</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Kanonisation? &#171; The Animanachronism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yet I still don&#8217;t like Kanon. Is there something inherently wrong with the genre, or is it just a gap in my taste? I see that this ground has been covered before (hyperbolically so; I am tempted to invoke Godwin), and my instinctive answer is the latter: it&#8217;s not Kanon, it&#8217;s me. Indeed, I almost regret watching this: the experience has suggested I&#8217;m less broad-minded, perhaps less ecumenical, than I had hoped. So, shockingly, examining Kanon was almost as good an exercise in confronting my own inadequacy as something like Kaiji. There&#8217;re plenty of rocks one could throw at the show - &#8216;quotidian&#8217; was a purple, overwrought expression of a real criticism, and legitimate questions can be asked about a certain studio&#8217;s envelope - but ultimately its fans would say, with Donne, &#8216;For God&#8217;s sake hold your tongue, and let me love&#8216;: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yet I still don&#8217;t like Kanon. Is there something inherently wrong with the genre, or is it just a gap in my taste? I see that this ground has been covered before (hyperbolically so; I am tempted to invoke Godwin), and my instinctive answer is the latter: it&#8217;s not Kanon, it&#8217;s me. Indeed, I almost regret watching this: the experience has suggested I&#8217;m less broad-minded, perhaps less ecumenical, than I had hoped. So, shockingly, examining Kanon was almost as good an exercise in confronting my own inadequacy as something like Kaiji. There&#8217;re plenty of rocks one could throw at the show &#8211; &#8216;quotidian&#8217; was a purple, overwrought expression of a real criticism, and legitimate questions can be asked about a certain studio&#8217;s envelope &#8211; but ultimately its fans would say, with Donne, &#8216;For God&#8217;s sake hold your tongue, and let me love&#8216;: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Asuka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I actually rewatched episode 15 today before stumbling upon your entry. Indeed, Mai&#039;s story was the most well crafted (IMO), with the most psychological complexity. The telling of her past was incredibly well done; the confrontation between her and Yuuichi in the end sent goosebumps up my arms. Since I have nothing better to do right now, I shall attempt to answer the hypothetical questions you&#039;ve posed with my own interpretation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Does Mai remember Yuuichi? Is she secretly hiding a grudge against the man who doesn&#039;t seem to remember the past, or is she honestly experiencing being cared about for the second time (Sayuri aside)?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Mai did remember Yuuichi as a child, but didn&#039;t know that the older Yuuichi was the same person as the boy who left her 7 years ago. You can argue that subconsciously she might have known, but consciously she thought of the older Yuuichi as a different person, up until the point when Yuuichi confronted her.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;How long have the demons been around? Has Mai really been fighting all these years? Or is it something that&#039;s resurfaced with the reappearance of Yuuichi?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe the demons/monsters started appearing right after Yuuichi&#039;s phone call telling Mai he&#039;s leaving. At the time, the demons were the demolition tractors that ate away the field they played in. Eventually they transformed and materialized from Mai&#039;s power, fuelled by Mai&#039;s self-hatred. Mai had probably been battling her own monsters all these years, but the intensity of the battles might have increased with Yuuichi&#039;s reappearance (Freud would have a lot to say about Mai&#039;s repressed memories lol).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;What &#039;control&#039; does Mai have over her demons? Why do they attack Yuuichi - or do they? Is it intentional? Could Mai just want to be the hero that protects Yuuichi, protects Sayuri, that saves the day?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The demons didn&#039;t just attack Yuuichi. They also attacked Sayuri and Mai herself. I don&#039;t see Mai&#039;s intention to be &quot;protecting her friends and being the hero&quot;. Rather, the demons were a direct manifestation of her self-hatred, which appeared when she thought her powers were what drove Yuuichi away. Since then, she started literally attacking the side of her that she despised the most, all because of a simple misunderstanding that happened 7 years ago. Mai&#039;s story really puts a new twist on the phrase &quot;Your biggest enemy is yourself&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(As you can probably tell, Mai is my favourite character in Kanon. She&#039;s got a little bit of all of us in her, which is why I care about her story so much. That and I love psychology~.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I actually rewatched episode 15 today before stumbling upon your entry. Indeed, Mai&#8217;s story was the most well crafted (IMO), with the most psychological complexity. The telling of her past was incredibly well done; the confrontation between her and Yuuichi in the end sent goosebumps up my arms. Since I have nothing better to do right now, I shall attempt to answer the hypothetical questions you&#8217;ve posed with my own interpretation.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Does Mai remember Yuuichi? Is she secretly hiding a grudge against the man who doesn&#8217;t seem to remember the past, or is she honestly experiencing being cared about for the second time (Sayuri aside)?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Mai did remember Yuuichi as a child, but didn&#8217;t know that the older Yuuichi was the same person as the boy who left her 7 years ago. You can argue that subconsciously she might have known, but consciously she thought of the older Yuuichi as a different person, up until the point when Yuuichi confronted her.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;How long have the demons been around? Has Mai really been fighting all these years? Or is it something that&#8217;s resurfaced with the reappearance of Yuuichi?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I believe the demons/monsters started appearing right after Yuuichi&#8217;s phone call telling Mai he&#8217;s leaving. At the time, the demons were the demolition tractors that ate away the field they played in. Eventually they transformed and materialized from Mai&#8217;s power, fuelled by Mai&#8217;s self-hatred. Mai had probably been battling her own monsters all these years, but the intensity of the battles might have increased with Yuuichi&#8217;s reappearance (Freud would have a lot to say about Mai&#8217;s repressed memories lol).</p>
<p><i>&#8220;What &#8216;control&#8217; does Mai have over her demons? Why do they attack Yuuichi &#8211; or do they? Is it intentional? Could Mai just want to be the hero that protects Yuuichi, protects Sayuri, that saves the day?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The demons didn&#8217;t just attack Yuuichi. They also attacked Sayuri and Mai herself. I don&#8217;t see Mai&#8217;s intention to be &#8220;protecting her friends and being the hero&#8221;. Rather, the demons were a direct manifestation of her self-hatred, which appeared when she thought her powers were what drove Yuuichi away. Since then, she started literally attacking the side of her that she despised the most, all because of a simple misunderstanding that happened 7 years ago. Mai&#8217;s story really puts a new twist on the phrase &#8220;Your biggest enemy is yourself&#8221;.</p>
<p>(As you can probably tell, Mai is my favourite character in Kanon. She&#8217;s got a little bit of all of us in her, which is why I care about her story so much. That and I love psychology~.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ojamajo_LimePie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ojamajo_LimePie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely post. I must say, though, that it isn&#039;t just males who love &lt;i&gt;Kanon&lt;/i&gt;; some of us girls are big fans, too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;Could Mai just want to be the hero that protects Yuuichi, protects Sayuri, that saves the day?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yeah, you said it was a hypothetical question, but I really feel you hit the nail on the head with this one, especially in relation to Sayuri. I&#039;ve always felt that Mai wants to protect her as a way of showing thanks for Sayuri&#039;s friendship (that, and yuri love!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely post. I must say, though, that it isn&#8217;t just males who love <i>Kanon</i>; some of us girls are big fans, too.</p>
<p><i>Could Mai just want to be the hero that protects Yuuichi, protects Sayuri, that saves the day?</i></p>
<p>Yeah, you said it was a hypothetical question, but I really feel you hit the nail on the head with this one, especially in relation to Sayuri. I&#8217;ve always felt that Mai wants to protect her as a way of showing thanks for Sayuri&#8217;s friendship (that, and yuri love!)</p>
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		<title>By: Iknight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A passionately-written entry, serving to remind those of us who can take or leave (in my case, leave, leave, leave) &lt;em&gt;Kanon&lt;/em&gt; and its ilk  that there are good reasons for its popularity.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I prefer to call this sort of thing a &#039;fanboy paean&#039;, not a &#039;fanboy rant&#039;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And now, if you&#039;ll excuse me, I&#039;m off to watch something non-&lt;em&gt;Kanon&lt;/em&gt;ical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A passionately-written entry, serving to remind those of us who can take or leave (in my case, leave, leave, leave) <em>Kanon</em> and its ilk  that there are good reasons for its popularity.</p>
<p>I prefer to call this sort of thing a &#8216;fanboy paean&#8217;, not a &#8216;fanboy rant&#8217;.</p>
<p>And now, if you&#8217;ll excuse me, I&#8217;m off to watch something non-<em>Kanon</em>ical.</p>
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