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Premise 1: Tsukihime, one of my personal favorite visual novels - and one I would highly recommend to anyone who wants some real sad girls in stuff, except with stronger characters and hundreds of times more action scenes - is apparently getting a remake of sorts. To use a colloquialism, much bricks were pushed out my rectum.

Premise 2: There has been more than a fair hint that everyone’s favorite no-luck heroine, Satsuki Yumizuka, might finally have her arc and story ending in said remake, mainly because 1) she’s listed as a “heroine” in the scan, 2) there’s not much else to add, and 3) Sacchin fans are probably standing outside Type-Moon headquarters right now with pitchforks right now demanding it. If this is true, I might push out enough bricks to build a house. Not like a apartment, but like a three-story mansion with twenty rooms, all filled with brick furniture and brick technology and brick refrigerators filled with brick food and drink. And, of course, a meido…made of brick. In fact, twin maids.

Needless to say I am a mild fan of Satsuki Yumizuka and being able to see her true ending, hinted at in the spin-off game Melty Blood (which worked things in the typical Nasu way by going off an ending which at the time didn’t exist), would be quite the experience. But I can’t help but feel a bit pensive about this development, in part due to something I’ve been brooding.

It was something I read on a fellow blog, or perhaps on a forum, about the popularity of side characters. Side characters, or at least characters without a defined story, tend to be quite popular, sometimes more popular than some of the main characters. Think of Kanon’s Akiko Minase, the Itsuki / Mayumi comedy duo in Shuffle!, Yukine of Clannad. Or, going outside of the visual novel genre, any of the Lucky Star minor characters, Wilhelmina / Margery / whatever yuri bait from Shana, hell, I even have soft spots for Hamaji (H2O) and Sakura Sae (sola).

But is there any logical basis behind this greater appreciation of characters left out from the big dance? I think there’s definitely a sort of bias going on here, one that might end up dimming the ranks of the Sacchin supporters if such a route ever comes out.

The irrational support of side characters is something that almost seems to stem from that age-old industry buzzword, moe. Defined in it’s most vague terms as ‘a feeling of wanting to protect something’, person after person has tried and probably failed to narrow the definition down to a specific quality or characteristic.

By it’s nature of course moe isn’t something that can be exactly defined; it’s similar to trying to define ‘cute’ in that some people might find certain characteristics attractive while some find others repulsive; except in the case of ‘cute’, and especially with ‘hot’ (internet notwithstanding), the views line up a lot more.

Moe runs the gamut, essentially, but IKnight a while back swung down his hammer of words and hit the nail as probably as close to the nail as it’s ever going to get in summarizing moe as something that induces a sort of ‘false superiority’ in the viewer.

Even with the purest of intentions, the feelings of ‘wanting to be there for the character’, as I would put it, imply a sense of being better than said character, whether it be being physically stronger, mentally superior, or simply less prone to walking into metal poles. (A contest that I, admittedly, would lose.)


It’s easy to relate this back to the fandom of side characters in what could be called a sort of ‘fourth wall moe’. While most moe traits result from something more tangible, i.e. glasses, clumsiness, monosyllabic catchphrases, this type of ‘urge to protect’ occurs because said character gets shafted by the storyline (or, alternatively, the writers). It’s kind of like why people like to know bands no one else does, or why people like to be elitist and write big long thousand-word essays on frivoulous topics (oh dear…), in that they like to feel like they are the only one there, the only one who understands.

I feel a lot of support for the side characters is that knee-jerk ‘counterculture cool’ reflex, that sense of pride from liking something that no one else likes. Satsuki might be a sweet, adorable character on her own, but she’s even better when all the other fans flock to Hisui, Akiha, Arcueid; y’know, characters with actual stories. If Sacchin was just like everyone else with a storyline and an ending, a large part of her fans might flee, screaming ’sellout’.

What I mean to do is to question the reason why many side characters are adored. They should be worshipped on their own merit, rather than on their lack of exposure.

But there’s another side to this argument. This lack of exposure produces another side effect, in that a quite one-dimensional at times picture is produced of the character, and this is a different issue.


Quite simply side characters sometimes just exist as cutouts. Akiko is the generic permanently happy MILF with unintentionally deadly cooking. Itsuki’s the Harem Runner-Up and Mayumi the Harem Reject. Hamaji exists to make us alternatingly laugh and want to go Oedipus, jabbing sharp objects into our eye sockets.

There’s nothing wrong with that - they can produce some easy laughs with their exaggerated personality, they are easy to use and (more often than not) easy on the eyes - but really, would I pick any of these characters over a main character?

They’re hardly fleshed out. Out of the four characters I mentioned, the prime achievement of all of them combined is getting hit by a car - basically being a passive pawn in an overarching event. We never do get to see their other side, the serious personality that comes out when the chips fall the wrong way, their story, their philosophy. That’s why a Sia - someone who seems to be all fun and games but has a legitimate conflict - will trump a Mayumi, why Sayuri tops Akiko, why I actually ended up feeling sympathetic for Yui’s character.


And that’s why I take my fandom of Sacchin lightly, because I don’t know if I’d really be a fan of her if I knew her true story, and I don’t know if this is the same of many of her adorers. Maybe it’s wrong to say this about her because she really did have the semblances of a story, a short moment that would invoke tears in the most stonewalled heart. But if that moment were nullified, if that story was continued, could it have the same impact? That’s my question to the Satsuki arc.

I suppose one of the good things about canvassing for side characters is that it does help to flesh them out a bit in their own way, when the fans contribute to a character’s cause and campaign for their recognition. What just worries me is sometimes, the hype just snowballs out of control and threatens to overtake the status of the character, as in the sad case of Sacchin, internet meme.

I have this feeling that if Satsuki had been a main character from the start, she wouldn’t be half as popular as she is now.

No doubt after her arc Satsuki’ll be a better character, but a vastly different one than the Sacchin we’ve all grown to expect and pity. That’s probably a improvement, but the hype will be a tough bar for Type-Moon to clear cleanly.

-CCY

(This probably all boils back to ‘Change BAD!’, as I cling to my out-dated notions of the greater-than-life Sacchin)

Afterword:

Four score and -19 years ago … er, that would be one year ago, Mega Megane Moe began life on, of all things, Yahoo! 360, as What is Eternity Doing Tonight?. Needless to say in a matter of days it was on Blogspot instead.

It’s been a long way from the short, episode-centric posts of the original Eternity to the often incredibly wordy analyses of M3, but it’s been an enjoyable ride all the way and it’s greatly helped keep my writing skills alive and improve my appreciation of anime as a whole. The discussion that the community can produce really does wonders for understanding and experiencing.

So, uh, yeah, I’ve got nothing funny to say, so let me just shout 1year GET and make the best wishes for the future of this blog and the anime community as a whole. Thanks for your readership!

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8 Responses to “Isn’t it scary, Sacchin: The faulty fandom of side characters (plus added moe BS)”
  1. evad83 says:

    Interesting read….
    Most of my favourite characters tend to be the side characters, rather the main characters (especially heroines).
    I have also thought similarly regarding the fact that I am cheering these characters on based on the fact that they are being left out by the story writers.

    However, if that is so, there are also many other side characters that are being left out of development, yet I am no fan of them. Why is that so? For myself, I still think some side characters, no matter how developed (in terms of character) or not, have their own basic personalities that makes me want to know more about them and cheer for their cause.

    After all, it all starts somewhere, whether for main characters or side characters. The only difference is main characters were given the privilege of being fleshed out more. Should the side characters become main characters, they may overtriumph the original main characters. This can be seen in spinoffs of series becoming more popular than original series itself when the side characters in the original series became the main characters.

    True, it is also likely possible that the addition of storyline and development may cause the side character to be liked lesser than before. But I am optimistic in this kind of change. Can’t wait for Sacchin story and replaying Tsukihime !!!

    P.S. : Oops, sorry for the long post… will try to learn how to write more clearly.

  2. remotemine says:

    Must. Get. Remake.

    Yes, I have fairly insane levels of anticipation for it as well. Though as far as I know, Melty Blood was based off Satsuki’s normal ending and not her true ending (though this is hearsay, so I’m not sure if it’s correct). I’m not all that fond of Satsuki (it’s because of Melty Blood, where the computer can spam her A attacks and hit you out of everything. And constantly throw you the instant they’re close enough. Gahhhhhhh).

  3. IKnight says:

    Happy 1YEAR GET!

    I realise now that yes, Mayumi Thyme probably was my favourite element of Shuffle!, though I never came into contact with the show’s fandom, if there is one. (I don’t normally declare my alliegances, but it seemed interesting in the context of this entry.) I suspect fourth-wall moe may have had something to do with it, though there’s also the way she’s not involved in (read: superior to) the competition for that nonentity, Tsuchimi Rin.

  4. DrmChsr0 says:

    I’ve always seen Sacchin as more of a joke than an actual character, really…

    I’m hoping she has the worst sex scene in a VN, ever. So that the joke may go on.

  5. TheBigN says:

    Happy 1 year anniversary. :3

    When you see things like Churuya, it makes sense that things can go much farther than the creator intended them to be. Is it misleading from the actual character? Sure. Is it bad in the long run? I guess that depends on the source material. :/

  6. Hemisphere says:

    Quite simply side characters sometimes just exist as cutouts. Akiko is the generic permanently happy MILF with unintentionally deadly cooking. Itsuki’s the Harem Runner-Up and Mayumi the Harem Reject. Hamaji exists to make us alternatingly laugh and want to go Oedipus, jabbing sharp objects into our eye sockets.

    There’s nothing wrong with that - they can produce some easy laughs with their exaggerated personality, they are easy to use and (more often than not) easy on the eyes - but really, would I pick any of these characters over a main character?

    It’s possible that the common weakness of side characters could also be their greatest strength, in that they aren’t restricted to any form of story in accordance to their character because they don’t have one - they’re usually just given a set of traits and personality necessary for them to do whatever the author intended for them to do. Though this is quite a glaring weakness when you’re judging the worth of characters by their development and how much they’re fleshed out by their story, it’s also somewhat of a burden when you’re trying to use these characters in something like, say, a doujin work. You have to consider just how much you can play around with the character before they start going “out of character”, something which might upset your audience.

    With side characters, however, you don’t have to be as strict when it comes to how they’ll stay in character, because their character is fairly one-dimensional and easy to represent. For example, there’s Hatsune Miku, a character whose popularity seems to be quite high, yet there’s very little backstory or actual story involving her character at all. It’s like tabula rasa, only you don’t have a blank slate to work with, but a character who can easily be molded into any situation/story without concerns for her backstory or character. Not that I’m saying that Hatsune Miku is a side character, but that her circumstances are similar to that of a side characters, what with the absence of a story and character development to cement their…character.

    Though I’d say that it’d still depend on the fandom as to how far a character’s popularity can be taken.

    Anyways, happy 1 year anniversary!

  7. CCY says:

    Thanks for the insightful commentary, everyone, and of course, thanks for the birthday wishes. :D

    @evad83: I’ve only seen very few examples of spin-offs eclipsing the main series, but spin-offs in general, yeah, those tend to be common.

    Maybe it’s that the side characters are just frameworks of the main characters, with similar major personality traits like the ones that attract fans like you and me, and they’re just waiting for the minor details to be filled in. I think it’s more rewarding to support a character which is better developed, but then again, maybe with our support, we can help cause this development.

    Best hopes for Sacchin Side as well.

    @remotemine: You might be right; all I know is that Melty Blood is based off one of Satsuki’s endings. I haven’t had time to research the intricacies of the plot, although I should since what I’ve seen of Sion’s character in the manga intrigues me.

    I’m horrible at Melty Blood in general, although extra-so with Sacchin, mainly because she’s a largely ground-based character with short range. Her Blood Heat Arc against Shiki is a treat to watch though, and I like her character, so I still try to master her.

    @IKnight: That’s a good point on Mayumi you’ve brought up - that’s probably one of the reasons she’s still one of the better characters of that show (along with Sia). I always thought her and Itsuki deserved some relationship development … I’ve heard the case is such in the Shuffle! PS2 game, but no translation / summary is easily found.

    I can relate with Nanami of School Days … I think she was the one female character who didn’t sleep with Makoto? Although that was more of an anti-Makoto vote.

    @drmchsr0: I imagine she’s become kind of a joke character ever since the game was released, as the “isn’t it sad” fad took off. I wonder if Nasu has begun to think the same way, tempting us with little morsels of Sacchin here and there, not to mention the Ten Nights stories in Kagetsu Tohya.

    I decline to consider the content of a Sacchin H-scene. Forgot it was an H-game ever since mirror moon’s non-ero patch. Although, if it was the worst scene, wouldn’t it be more Shiki’s fault?

    @TheBigN: Nice job on bringing up Churuya, that was one of the examples I really shouldn’t have forgotten. Tsuruya, in the anime, even was quite the bit player (showing up for probably a few minutes total), but watching her get morphed into a chibi character whose popularity has skyrocketed (Hell, I’d admit to mumbling “nyoro~n” when frustrated…weeaboo power!) is quite something.

    I enjoy her character, at least, although it’s utterly nonsensible. But like others have said, what’s the problem in that? (Well… I do wish Emiri had more attention, for starters. XD)

    @Hemisphere:
    True… side characters are a lot easier to have fun with and can be filled to an extent with any personality, but I think that’s only true for doujin works that try to stay canon. In less canon works, I think messing with already-established traits of main characters can be equally rewarding.

    Yuki Nagato from ‘The Dissapearance of Haruhi Suzumiya’ is my best example of that (even if it is an official work), how it can be very enjoyable to see a character who is clearly defined go against all their traits. It’s part of the appeal of strong & silent girls like her, or for archetypes like the tsundere in general.

    I understand what you’re saying about Miku Hatsune, although I never really understood how she became so popular (except for the fact she’s a pretty face that you can define as you wish - the programming nerd in me would call her an ‘abstract class’). Probably the same factor that made Churuya big.

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