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	<title>Comments on: In a world without omnipresent narrators&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Owen S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points, CCY, IKnight. It's to my chagrin that I've only just caught up with 9 episodes of Kaiji today, and plan on watching the rest tomorrow (Valentines, no less), so I can't comment on IKnight's post just yet, but yours will do.

You've got a point about how the lack of a narrator would help Kaiji greatly, although to be honest &lt;em&gt;I just don't know&lt;/em&gt; about how much of its current charm it'd retain sans narrative undercurrent. It's mildly campy, to be sure, yet there's something I'm unable to grasp just yet that's so fitting about how the disembodied voice falls into place with everything, and I'm not sure that Kaiji would work without it.

The only explanation I can give for it is that the &lt;em&gt;outcome&lt;/em&gt; isn't as important as the &lt;strong&gt;process&lt;/strong&gt; here, which is why the narrator adds onto, rather than distracts from the experience We all know Kaiji's going to weasel himself out of whatever problem he finds himself in, we just don't know how he's going to go about it, so I guess that in a show where you already know how something's going to end (Kaiji dying in a street corner somewhere or losing? Never!) you need something else to drive the process, and the narrator fits this very nicely.

Kaiji sans narrator would be arthouse, if you ask me, but maybe we need P.A. Works to do a remake and put all that budget into wringing out some of the most realistic facial expressions ever seen in anime. It's a pipe dream, I'm sure, but bishie gar moe Kaiji seems like something the masses, along with that much coveted double-demographic, would lap up immediately.

(Also, stop using up all the Danbooru pictures, dammit, I'm going to have none left for my post later!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, CCY, IKnight. It&#8217;s to my chagrin that I&#8217;ve only just caught up with 9 episodes of Kaiji today, and plan on watching the rest tomorrow (Valentines, no less), so I can&#8217;t comment on IKnight&#8217;s post just yet, but yours will do.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got a point about how the lack of a narrator would help Kaiji greatly, although to be honest <em>I just don&#8217;t know</em> about how much of its current charm it&#8217;d retain sans narrative undercurrent. It&#8217;s mildly campy, to be sure, yet there&#8217;s something I&#8217;m unable to grasp just yet that&#8217;s so fitting about how the disembodied voice falls into place with everything, and I&#8217;m not sure that Kaiji would work without it.</p>
<p>The only explanation I can give for it is that the <em>outcome</em> isn&#8217;t as important as the <strong>process</strong> here, which is why the narrator adds onto, rather than distracts from the experience We all know Kaiji&#8217;s going to weasel himself out of whatever problem he finds himself in, we just don&#8217;t know how he&#8217;s going to go about it, so I guess that in a show where you already know how something&#8217;s going to end (Kaiji dying in a street corner somewhere or losing? Never!) you need something else to drive the process, and the narrator fits this very nicely.</p>
<p>Kaiji sans narrator would be arthouse, if you ask me, but maybe we need P.A. Works to do a remake and put all that budget into wringing out some of the most realistic facial expressions ever seen in anime. It&#8217;s a pipe dream, I&#8217;m sure, but bishie gar moe Kaiji seems like something the masses, along with that much coveted double-demographic, would lap up immediately.</p>
<p>(Also, stop using up all the Danbooru pictures, dammit, I&#8217;m going to have none left for my post later!)</p>
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		<title>By: IKnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>IKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I've gone on about before, one reason the narrator of &lt;em&gt;Kaiji&lt;/em&gt; is so foregrounded, so in-your-face, is to point out to the viewer that they are watching a piece of anime, entertainment, and so to implicate them - to make us ask ourselves how different we are from the rich people who are enjoying the spectacle of Kaiji's suffering. [Whereas &lt;em&gt;Akagi&lt;/em&gt; needed a narrator to explain the mahjong. But both shows have some delicious internal character monologues too.]

But you're right, of course, that the more the narrator explains the less there is for the otakusphere to easily grab and run with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve gone on about before, one reason the narrator of <em>Kaiji</em> is so foregrounded, so in-your-face, is to point out to the viewer that they are watching a piece of anime, entertainment, and so to implicate them - to make us ask ourselves how different we are from the rich people who are enjoying the spectacle of Kaiji&#8217;s suffering. [Whereas <em>Akagi</em> needed a narrator to explain the mahjong. But both shows have some delicious internal character monologues too.]</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right, of course, that the more the narrator explains the less there is for the otakusphere to easily grab and run with.</p>
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