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Hell and Heaven Moéltdown

The hour of victory is near … it’s up to you to seize it.
Victory is almost theirs. They can taste it. That boiling blood of the fanbase.
Certainly Kyoto Animation and Kadokawa have stretched the majority of Haruhi fans almost to their breaking point with their 5th iteration of Endless Eight; or at least, the part of it I can see, especially in the otakusphere corner of blogs.
I took a dive through my feed reader earlier and saw approximately three kinds of posts:
1) Cleverly reposted summaries of the last 2 3 4 Endless Eight episodes. Probably too frustrated, too lazy, or both, to write new posts.
2) Generic rage posts about how [KyoAni / Kadokawa] is [mistreating / milking / abusing] their [franchise / fans / anime itself] and how [the director / Haruhi / Kyon / everyone involved] needs to [die in a fire / be fired immediately / be enlisted for immediate inclusion in Shubesuta doujins].
3) And once or twice, a defense of the show. Maybe not a defense of the content, maybe not a defense of Kadokawa / KyoAni’s choices, but a defense of why Haruhi is enjoyable.
Certainly I have no reason to be backing up, merely on content alone, a show that has aired the same content (roughly) five times straight, not to mention in its latest iteration the same scene four times in a row, ending on a scene that should be all too familiar to ‘fans’ of the first season’s Someday in the Rain.
But, why the hell not?
I guess I can consider myself in the contingent, a small one but definitely one that exists, of viewers that have been, more or less, broken by this amazing tactical maneuver. There are many kinds of broken: there’s Higurashi broken, there’s Mako-cakes broken, but this kind of broken is the more subtle kind of broken.

Not crying broken, either.
I explained it in my B-SIDE post on Haruhi a week or so ago – and I must thank all you commenters for the response to that post, I will get to it once I get all my thoughts on Haruhi together (i.e. ‘I’m lazy) – but I’m definitely the Diethard (Code Geass) kind of broken.
It’s not broken in that I’m going to end up stabbing someone or cross-dressing or whatever, but it’s that broken that makes you want to just follow a phenomenon and mark its every move, feeling like you’re following something that will go down in history – no matter what its motives or effects may be.
Tornado watchers, almost. That’s me and Haruhi. That feeling that, no matter how much it hurts, no matter how much we’re getting toyed with, no matter how much people try to apologize for and tear down Haruhi – that I’m seeing something that I won’t see the likes of again for a while.
It’s why I think of School Days so highly. I’ll acknowledge lolikitsune’s comment from last time that perhaps School Days contained more new content during its descent into insanity, both in and outside the frame of the anime; but somehow, I’m still finding new and strange things to poke it with each iteration of Endless Eight.
Why? Because KyoAni knows how to toy with viewers, with one of the favorite bits I like to chomp at – art style.
It’s why SHAFT has always a studio I follow closely, because especially with some of their recent shows and with some of their Shinbo shows, they’ve combined two of my favorite things: art which has meaning or maybe just pretense, and a taste for being balls-to-the-wall ridiculous (sup Zetsubou Sensei).

I actually still hope a.f.k. would translate those signs that Haruhi smacks around in the OP
KyoAni has been having some fun of their own with Endless Eight; some astute viewers may have noticed it with the first few episodes, how the color slowly drained out of the scenes, reflecting the dullness of repeating an event, oh, say, fifteen thousand times.
Endless Eight #4 (episode 5) had imagery all over the place, that one plane that depending on who you talk to, is the key to everything, or just a red herring. Iteration #2 seemed to have higher production values – or rather, a brighter, blurrier art style reminiscent of Clannad compared to the rest, which leads to speculation of different E8 episodes being animated by different teams within KyoAni.
But Endless Eight #5, the most recent episode 6 of the second season, is just a whole new bag of delicious confusion, with a art style that, to me, was quite jarring in comparison to how many of the previous episodes were presented. I imagine intentionally.
Yeah, this episode may have been the same as every other Endless Eight so far … if you close your ears. But if you take a critical eye to the art direction, you find that KyoAni pulls a few tricks that haven’t been seen so far in previous iterations. And it seems everyone is too busy giving up on the series to even pay lip service to this kind of stuff.
My first indicator that something was off was the fact that the shots seemed more kinetic than in past episode. There were lots of pans and the frames seemed to be moving a lot, cutting in and out between extreme close-ups and normal, faraway shots at quite a rapid pace.

KyoAni’s got the moe gun cocked and is waiting to pull the trigger. Curve that lip, Nagato, and we’re all dead.
After the swimming pool though, we’re presented with a shot that I think is a sign that KyoAni knows it’s holding back. It could annihilate half the otaku population right here, right now with Nagato. The tedium of Endless Eight is a barrier between us and the infinite fountain of moe that is Dissapearance Nagato. As I joked about earlier, they’re doing this for our own good.
But it seemed strange. Why such a strangely framed shot, with Nagato staring straight into our souls, lacking that dead-eyed look seen in previous episodes, reflecting the pool in half-closed eyes? And then, it seemed obvious.
This episode was being told, even more than usual, from Kyon’s point of view.
Now, we get to stare at the phone as Kyon gives it a weird look when Haruhi calls. We get to feel just how damn close Itsuki’s face gets all the time. When there’s conversation, quite oftenwe’re right in the action – it’s a ‘tactic’, if I can call it that, used in visual novels. Put the player in the game and all that.
It’s probably why we don’t get the yukata shopping scene or else that 30-second-shot of the clock at the end would have been replaced of a 30-second-shot of Kyon watching Mikuru jiggle all over the place.
Yeah, more reason to hate KyoAni, I know.
But why here? Why Kyon?
Well, as they say, if I knew the answer, then I wouldn’t be asking this question to begin with. We could toss about theories about how maybe we’re supposed to be put in Kyon’s shoes and feel his hopelessness, a tactic used earlier with Nagato – it’s popularly thought the whole reason we’re getting this many Endless Eights is to convey the utter tedium Nagato is going through.

Your face is too fabulous
But what kind of tedium is Kyon having if he just stares at a bunch of googly-eyed girls (and Itsuki) all the time? Sure, we get the scene at the end where Kyon searches through the memory of Haruhi leaving four times, see his desperation then – but until then, there’s just nothing to feel.
Or maybe -that’s- the point. The reason this is repeating so often after all, one would believe (forgive me, it’s been a long time since the novels), is because Kyon isn’t stopping Haruhi at the end. Or in the middle, or really at all.
Despite all the evidence to the contrary, Kyon just doesn’t care; he could try to change what to him is -maybe- a time loop, but it’s just too much hassle, especially when dealing with an energetic girl like Haruhi. Best leave it to Mikuru, or Nagato, or Itsuki or someone else to do something, right?
After all, he has this feeling of deja vu, and the word of the SOS Brigade, and that’s it. Time’s looping. Sure. Whatever. He’s probably still in denial about kissing Haruhi in closed space, after all.
When Haruhi stands up to leave, he’s hit with another wave of deja vu and then the desperation hits, the belief that this is real appears, but of course it’s too late already by the time he’s reached that point. Doesn’t the phrase “too little too late” ring a bell?
I’m almost tempted to say the music agrees as well; the music in episode 6 (E8 #5) seemed rather off to me as well, never quite picking the right tone.

Note the bottle is full before and after Mikuru drinks; in before Sankaku’s “Haruhi Bottle Animation Fail” post
In the beginning, despite the thoughtful melancholy of the previous few episodes, it’s bright and peppy. During the cicada hunt and part-time job, it’s a tune full of bravado and energy. It’s blindingly enthusastic compared to the last few episodes, which were much more pensive.
When Nagato announces it’s the eleventy billionth time they’ve done all this before, it breaks into a piano tune that has traces of melancholy, but is very ‘visual novel’ in nature, reserved more for a touching event than a shocking one. What’s up?
I could make crack theories all night long, saying this ties into the whole ‘Kyon POV’ thing as well. Kyon’s not as worried as everyone else when it comes to this sort of realization – a little off-put, but in the end like any normal citizen, he decides to ignore things that are troublesome to him.
Is that good enough to be a message? I can’t say.
Certainly it’s very tempting to say that I’m overanalyzing and that KyoAni is just putting random wankage into Haruhi at this point to pretend they’re mixing things up, what with the planes and all. The clock scene at the end is a bit stranger and a bit tougher to explain, although it does seem very much in line with Kyon’s motto of ‘wait and see what happens’ (and just like waiting 2 weeks is a long time, so is waiting 30 seconds in a 22 minute show).

Strangely non-bored for Nagato, although many noted she had no book this whole episode
But in the end, I’m having far too much fun throwing out these conspiracy theories just as if I was watching ef all over again (tying it back to the title), wondering about whether the framing of characters within umbrellas is intentional and contemplating why this part is black and white and just why we have to watch a phone card count down from 100.
Certainly one show has more content than the other; Haruhi, to many, may seem a lot more like picking at nothingness than ef. Even if both had its detractors, I’m sure ef fans just got called pretentious, while Haruhi backers at this point must be nothing less than fanatic.
I prefer the term ‘maniacal’, thank you very much. “Characterized by uncontrollable excitement or frenzy.” That sounds about right.
After all, I’ve probably wrote more words combined in the last few weeks on Haruhi then they’ve written for the Endless Eight script. And I don’t care. Maybe it’s because I specialize in the insane, the ridiculous, and the time loops, that I’m having a ridiculously entertaining time watching Haruhi S2 for all the wrong reasons.
But as ghostlightning said in the posts I linked in the begininng; in the end, if I enjoy entertainment, whether for the wrong reason, or the right reason, what’s the problem in that? So maybe my passion can get through to you, and you too, can be utterly broken, in all the right ways, by Haruhi.
-CCY

I haven’t had a post with this many words yet
(p.s. that disc I smashed the other day for the Haruhi rage post, that was a blank CD. I actually own the R1s and was planning to fake-smash those, but it seems breaking a fan-sub disc had interesting connotations of its own)
July 20, 2009 - 11:17 pm
You win at having fun, the creators win if they’re having as much fun as the content suggests. And if the show isn’t giving fun, MAKE THE FUN.
The two posts I did were made entirely in that spirit. How much fun can I have with Endless Eight? Apparently, more to come thanks to the ‘lolikitsune effect.’ (watch out)
The older design of the site is much prettier though…
July 20, 2009 - 11:40 pm
…and here I was going to compare 6 to SHAFT. I definitely got that sense from the animation style — the off-subject shots, the willingness to focus on different parts of a scene, even the little ambient things in the background. I also noticed a theme of rotation, between Haruhi rotating in the pool to the world rotating around the last 30 seconds of time. I’m excited to see what will happen next; I feel like the tension is beginning to build, and that something may happen soon. (This was also the first time I noticed the parallel between 8 and infinity, but that’s me failing.)
On that note, I feel like this episode also partially justifies the long run-up and the (now at least 5) reptitions of Endless Eight. An episode like this builds a lot of tension, but only when properly framed; it wouldn’t work without the context of the previous trips through the loop. The first trip is necessary to relate the actual events of the loop; the second to set up the time loop itself. The third (and to some extent the fourth) is necessary to express the sameness and familiarity of tripping across the same two weeks for almost 6 centuries. It’s not until now, after the events and atmosphere have been firmly established, that an episode like this — strikingly different from its predecessors, and hinting at just how far from normal the situation has come — can be effective. If it were attempted after only one or two trips, we would assume that the loops were all that unsettling, dampening the impact of this episode’s imagery.
As I’ve said before, I’m enjoying Endless Eight; I feel like there’s a lot hidden in the superficially repeating episodes, and I look forward to uncovering that hidden meaning once I have more context.
July 21, 2009 - 1:35 am
Personally I’ve got more enjoyment out of a lazy watching/tolerance of EE than careful theorising, but, that said, I enjoyed this post, so maybe I’ve been underestimating the show’s playfulness potential.
Although the directors were clearly playing things quite differently, I didn’t notice this Kyon-view in #5, so I’m finding that an intriguing idea. That piano music was certainly something I found striking, maybe less fun than the whacked horror movie buzzing from #4, and if you’re right re. the direction style, then that choice of motif for the episode could make a bit more sense than I had realised. I’d just figured they were trying to skip some of the shots/scenes which had been everpresent without changing the message – but maybe I just need to rewatch the episode…
July 21, 2009 - 2:35 am
Really nice analysis of more subtile stuff that was going on with the visuals and music.
Like I mentions in your B-SIDE post KyoAni really puts much effort (and sure money) into this little details to achive something even if 95% of the people won’t “get” it. Sounds familiar, right? Only diffrence that in season 1 this wasn’t a “if the don’t get it, it sucks” kind of deal.
The idea about Kyon’s POV is quite interesting. I’m almost tempted to search to search for parallels in the iterations before…. almost… to lazy after so much repeatition without rewatching the stuff.
But perhaps now I’ll also keep enjoying it and not see it as some kind of random prank till everything or nothing is revealed. So you have my thanks so to say. :P
On the other side, if the reason behind this stuff isn’t mind-boggling awesome, to the die hard fans it might be the end of there world but I don’t care. I had my fun thinking about it by then.
And it’s not as if there is nothing else to watch. Earlier seasons everybody cried that everything is rubbish and they are bored or something like that.
Now we have: some SHAFTy yandere animal possesion something, some SHAFTy standard fare with no-so-suicidal social commentary. There is bartering&wolfservice and Noir Type-Moon-style abd the new When the Cry.
If thats your enjoyment, you should really keep an eye on Umineko. It’s not so visually stunning as other shows (coming from DEEN no surprise) but when the story gets going later on this becomes a hell of a mindfuck with much of room for the those kind of analysises & theories you seem to enjoy.
The ingredients you are searching for are all present in the games… only question if the will get lost due to adaption delay.
But coming from some Umineko kind of broken people this might not mean much to you. ;-)
July 21, 2009 - 7:31 am
I was one of those people who gave up on watching the subsequent Endless Eight reiterations because I thought there wouldn’t be any new material worth watching. After reading several of your posts, it broke down my personal bias and gave me a deeper appreciation of the ‘new’ episodes. Noticing the different music pieces and various imagery in the same scenes was actually…entertaining. Thanks for showing me what I could have missed!
July 22, 2009 - 10:35 pm
My theory is still that all the events in Endless 8 can be analyzed with the drinks they get at the cafe, specifically, Yuki’s green drink. If you observe the drink closely in each episode, by the end of the show, the relationship becomes simple.
July 23, 2009 - 6:14 pm
There are differences, I imagine, because they were all done by different animation teams
You can like what you like, but I don’t buy this cock-and-bull story about there being enough difference to merit 7+ episodes. For every one bit of new, interesting imagery like the ticking-screen, there are 10 bits of sameness. I’ve watched the scene where Haruhi introduces her list each episode, and I’ll be damned if I see any significant differences there. This could have been done in three episodes total, omitting introductory episode. If you want to see an obvious troll as subtle art than go ahead but don’t be surprised if people scratch their heads at you.